Man made crop circles? haha, no.

[erino]

Hey. I was listening to the altered states radio show, about shadow people, who may or not be related to MIB, and they said… that shadow people show up even around the man made crop circles.
So, davidfitz, if it is all in our minds, why wouldn’t the greys mind control the fakers to come on out and do the patterns, right?
I mean, it’s clearly the MASSES that the giant pictures will reach. The makers are TRYING to create mass hysteria, or confusion, and the greys, are creating the same unless someone is there to decode what they want, like that binary code message you know. More will (think WHAT IF) then they wont. The fakers feel confident they are fakers, the greys feel confident they’ve conveyed their message. Is this a common concept in UFO study?

[tomydactnfigure]

It's funny cause the fakers do it just cause it's fun and a lot of crop growers like the exposure so they agree to it...check him out online - Dr Semian Hein

[davidfritzcaiprs]

Interesting. I am with Tomy the fakers just do it to do it. And about the greys there are facts and then there is the mind and human perception. The facts are there if you want to look. Most have and run away from what they find. This is why things never get proven and keep going round and round and round. Facts are all over the place concerning the greys, and Mibs. Its how you want to look at the history of the information about them. Which will be truth or just one big mind game.

[erino]

Hein explores the possibility of the fake crop circles having the same effect as the real? Creating the same energy, as real crop circles are having the same sort of effects on the brain (which would be sort of hard to ever really decided, and you’d imagine real crop circles would have a HUGELY different energy effect being “unearlthy” then man made) BUT- That is basically what I was trying to say.
The fakers don’t do it just because its fun my friend. The fakers do it for the thrill, and the idea that people are going to think aliens did it. Otherwise they would come out a lot sooner. And according to Hein himself, sometimes because they truly think they are creating magical forces within the circles anyone could experience.
Granted this guy, seems to be taking this idea away from aliens, and into the sense of life energy, but I think it is very possible it is all tied in.
I think it is very possible it’s predisposed in these peoples general make up to do the circles, or the other option is that there are a serious of signs or suggestions during their lives at some point directed by outside forces leading up to the creation of the circles.
Be it for people to think there are aliens or whatever the other reasons it may be necessary for these things to get attention at any given time.

[davidfritzcaiprs]

Jungs work with the Archtypical mind could somewhat be put to your theory. On the other hand I see no reason why a force would direct people to make crop circles, ( other than human force) when it makes them on its own. The real circles have a microwave signature to them. Or some form of energy that acts like microwaves. They are made to be seen full detail from an above vantage point. Now is this misleading in itself? Making people think they are from above rather than on the earth. As you can see by the copys of people making them they can be made without looking down from an above vantage point. Then another scenerio may fit into the picture. That whoever is making the real crop circles may be doing it from underground, using the earth itself as the tool for the energy transmission and the atmosphere above as a mirror for reflection to make the designs. Could be Mr Shaver was not having delusional dreams.

[erino]

Your right, why would a force direct people to make cop circles when it makes them on its own. But does it for SURE, or are there other explanations that could be causing those microwave like energy signals to be at certain areas and not others?
Are these areas pre-charged before the circles and human makers are drawn to the area in certain cases? Are there any ways that the makers them selves could leave a signature like that to further deter investigations and answers on the phenomenon?
There are a slew of reasons why I think they would use humans and they all kind of go beyond reasoning(for now at least) And so do the real importance of the circles in terms of sudden(to us) effects they may have on people.
LOL- I want to apologize honestly because this is one of those things that kind of runs away with you.(*think before you post erino) I’m not trying to argue this AT ALL because I really don’t have any background on anything here.

[davidfritzcaiprs]

You have an opinion and that is all that is needed! There are many avenues to approach concerning these circles. Anyone of them could give the answer of to who and why they are being made.